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That’s ideology today. We don’t believe in democracy—nobody. You make
fun of it and so on, but somehow we act as if it works. It’s a very
strange situation, because there are—some of us old enough still
remember them, old days when the public face of power was dignity,
belief. And privately you mocked it, you made fun, and so on, no? Now
we are, I think, approaching a very strange state, where the public
face of power is becoming more and more openly indecent, obscene. Look
at Sarkozy in France. Look at Berlusconi in Italy, who is
systematically undermining, for over five years now, the minimum of
dignity of the state power. I mean, you are again and again surprised
how is this possible. You know, after those sex scandals, two weeks
ago, his lawyer, Berlusconi’s lawyer, made a public official statement,
where he said that the claims that Berlusconi is impotent are lies and
that Mr. Berlusconi is ready to prove this in court. Now, how? How—what
did he mean? You know, there is a level of obscenity, but this
shouldn’t deceive us. We really live in cynical times, not just in this
cheap sense they don’t take themselves seriously, but in the sense
that—how should I put it?—the ironic self-undermining, making fun of
yourself, is in a strange way part of the game. It’s as if the system
can function even if it makes fun of itself.
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