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January 25, 2005

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Mark Dery

Mark Dery sent the following comment:

The revolution eats its young.

>>"Why is Mark reacting in such a bizarre, extreme way?""

Because Mark is a bizarre, extreme guy---a hopeless literatus who *likes* to write long, wooly screeds. Chalk it up to stylistic difference. If an over-the-top style and shaggy, unkempt length strike you as "bizarre, extreme," try the New Journalists. Or Deleuze and Guattari. Or, for that matter, Lovecraft, Huysmans, Lautreamont, Jarry, Artaud, or even Bruce Sterling, when he's on a scenery-chewing tear. They'll *really* pin your ears back. Bizarre extremity can be a cardinal virtue, in matters of style.

"What's at stake for him? Does he think that he has the final word, the only word? What vulnerability requires a defense that entails an unbelievably long response to a criticism on someone else's blog, with multiple references and a long account of his proper left credentials, Cesar Chavez and the like (I could almost hear Joan Baez singing in the background)? Seems to me like he is the one who can't handle disagreement."

Well, what is a man but multiple references? But seriously: Pop-psychoanalysis doesn't become you. Your point-by-point response to my *ideas*, rather than my motivations, is more thoughtful by far. BTW, I dragged out "my left credentials" simply to underscore my firsthand knowledge of that particular historically important boycott, and to drive home the thumpingly obvious point (incomprehensible to many of NOMDDD's supporters) that, yes, Virginia, leftists can critique leftists.

That said, I appreciate your unbelievably long response to my unbelievably long response to your response to my exercise in full-throated tub-thumping. I'll read it and ruminate on it and profit from it, I'm sure.

klaus

On his blog Dery wrote:

". There is exactly negative zero connection between sticking it to Apu down at the Kwik-E-Mart and inflicting a mortal wound on Dick Cheney and the Masters of War over at Halliburton."

Actually, Rumsfeld is a former Sears board member. I'm sure there are further interconnections between the merchants of death and the merchants of merchandise.

Also, a lively style is good, but a person who thinks the use of "humorectomy" constitutes wit is in need of a humorectomy. Just kidding.

ozric

wouldn't ya know dean and dery or dery and dean are both in the theOs column with dean theorizing along with mark's gray matter http://www.villagevoice.com/vls/178/dery.shtml before that there's one titled > instead of never mind the bollocks how about never mind the left or something else suitably post-situationist- all of which seems very remote from the conventional politics of academics and others but not from mark dery.

ozric

deleted the title by using those brackets like happened before with in fact, lenin who was not in fact president of the u.s. but couldn't stalin hitler or churchill substitute for roosevelt if one favored a different political ideology...anyway left out above is--jodi dean get real--from the fringecult column which is #9 out of 10 and isn't in the reduced set and now via the yahoo page links to the heide site and mondo 2000 interview which at that time which refers to getting the 1st email from you probably didn't exist or at least didn't see it until fairly recently so from jodi dean get real search to http://www.heide.to/print/18_jodi_1.htm gray matter and aliens--that's more like it

Jodi

Ozric--thanks for the heide link and mondo interview. I wish the full set of columns were up. And sure all your Roosevelt substitutions work fine for my point--shared sacrifice can create solidarity, cohesion. I should have just gestured to Totem and Taboo.

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