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June 06, 2009

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Tokyo

unconstructive: liked it very much. The looping-center-shape(lessness) of web 2.0 super helpful for me and a couple of things I've been wrestling with lately.

Dave

this was brilliant. really clarified a lot of things i've been thinking about. one of the most insightful pieces i've read in a long time.

Dave

A question: In your conclusion, you problematise the emancipatory potential of drive in a domain like the internet (drive as evinced by endless googling and websurfing). You point out your crucial difference from Zizek by arguing drive is not a radical break or imbalance but an imbalance that communicative capitalism depends on.

Isn't the crucial point here the thin line between the 'two death drives', as articulated by Zizek in The Ticklish Subject? There is the idiotic superego death drive to enjoy and then there is the death drive in its disruptive dimension of traversing the fantasy. It would seem then the internet is defined more by the superego injunction to enjoy, a idiotic transfixion in an inherantly compulsive universe, than the death drive as radical break. Not too different from what you're saying ultimately but I think Zizek does address this point.

Jodi

I agree with you that he addresses the point. But I think that there is a problem in his argument. If the conditions of the present are characterized by the decline of symbolic efficiency, then they are not held together by a fundamental fantasy and so there is no fantasy to traverse. Traversing the fantasy can only name some kind of break in the context of a functional symbolic order. So, my argument is that both aspects of drive are capture/captured. Under communicative capitalism, drive does not provide a model/form/direction for a way out but instead is the way to understand or grasp the form of our submission.

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